How many hissers?

[buddylee79]

Hello roach fans,

I have looked around the web and the forum and can't really find what I'm after. How many different hissers are there? These are the ones I can find info(of sorts) on:

G. portentosa

G. Oblongata

E. Chopardi

E. laevigata

G. grandidieri

and the debatable P. Vanwaerebeki (what is the deal with this guy?).

Are there any others? What are they?

Thanks

Buddylee79

 

[Matt K]

Hello roach fans,I have looked around the web and the forum and can't really find what I'm after. How many different hissers are there? These are the ones I can find info(of sorts) on:

G. portentosa

G. Oblongata

E. Chopardi

E. laevigata

G. grandidieri

and the debatable P. Vanwaerebeki (what is the deal with this guy?).

Are there any others? What are they?

Thanks

Buddylee79

Aeluropoda insignis

Elliptorhina chopardi

Elliptorhina javanica

Leozehntnera maxima

Gromphadorhina portentosa

Gromphadorhina brunneri

Gromphadorhina picea

Gromphadorhina grandidieri

Gromphadorhina laevigata

Gromphadorhina oblongata

Princisia vanwaerbecki (debateable)

...and depending on your definition then:

Ateloblatta

Coleoblatta

Griffiniella

Heminauphoeta

Henschoutedenia

Jagrehnia

Nauphoeta

Oxyhaloa

Pelloblatta

Pronauphoeta

Rhypharobia

Simandoa

...and I think I am missing one or two....

 

[buddylee79]

Aeluropoda insignisElliptorhina chopardi

Elliptorhina javanica

Leozehntnera maxima

Gromphadorhina portentosa

Gromphadorhina brunneri

Gromphadorhina picea

Gromphadorhina grandidieri

Gromphadorhina laevigata

Gromphadorhina oblongata

Princisia vanwaerbecki (debateable)

...and depending on your definition then:

Ateloblatta

Coleoblatta

Griffiniella

Heminauphoeta

Henschoutedenia

Jagrehnia

Nauphoeta

Oxyhaloa

Pelloblatta

Pronauphoeta

Rhypharobia

Simandoa

...and I think I am missing one or two....

Wow.....that is sure is more than I expected....Thanks Matt. Next question...where can I find pitcures of these fine critters, I looked and had some trouble. For future refrence(we all know how addicting roaches are), are they available?

...and depending on your definition then:Ateloblatta

Coleoblatta

Griffiniella

Heminauphoeta

Henschoutedenia

Jagrehnia

Nauphoeta

Oxyhaloa

Pelloblatta

Pronauphoeta

Rhypharobia

Simandoa

please explain

buddylee79

 

[Zephyr]

Are those all in culture?

What's the species name for V-horn "hissers?"

 

[buddylee79]

What's the species name for V-horn "hissers?"

From what I can gather, Elliptorhina laevigata = V-horn Hisser

 

[Matt K]

No, not all those are in culture. Of that list these are not as far as I know:

Leozehntnera maxima

Gromphadorhina laevigata

...and depending on your definition then:

Ateloblatta

Coleoblatta

Griffiniella

Heminauphoeta

Jagrehnia

Pelloblatta

Pronauphoeta

Simandoa

 

[Ralph]

please explainbuddylee79

I think he means roaches that hiss but are not closely related to hissers. Also, doesn't Aptera sp. hiss?

 

[Zephyr]

I've heard Blaberus and Archimandrita hiss too.

 

[Ralph]

That's from the wings rubbing against the abdomen or back legs. My B. craniifer do it a lot, I'm not sure if it's a defense mechanism or just an accidental thing.

 

[Matt K]

ORIN !!! Help !!

Could you clarify these shennanigans? The definition of hissing is getting confused and bemuddled....

Rookies.

 

[Pharma]

Hi Matt

I think you mean the subfamily Oxyhaloinae because "hisser" isn't a valide name but a rather squishy colloquial term, don't you?

It is in my opinion quite stupid to use a collective for just a few genera and ignoring the whole rest even though the former have the ability to hiss (making sound with their spiracles) in common and besides originate from the same habitat (Madagascar) whilst the later don't.

Common laymen seem to need something simplistic which may contradict clear destinctions, reason and logic but that doesn't really matter cause no one cares. Neither the opiate of the masses nor the "hisser"-term can be or need to be precisely clarified... *soooorry*

EDIT:

Due to some confusion with my formulation I'd like to add this PM-answer:

Sorry if it sounds to harsh! It wasn't my intention to humiliate anyone. If you have a 'nicer sounding translation' which wouldn't be misunderstood please let me know so I can change it!

What I meant is something like this:

- I don't like popular names for animals/plants much because they are very confusing especially when someone uses an english term for which there is not even a german translation and/or where there are several species included.

- Common names are "something simplistic" and rarely are specific because everyone should be able to use them with no regard to his/her standard of knowledge (so there can't be any strict rule for this terms). I see that it is quite important for normal live to use such names (or other simplified terms) because no one can handle every specialist term/field (Me to; as it looks I'm a layman regarding english writing rolleyes.gif ) and every one is in one or the other field a layman and most people are in at least some aspects of life 'common' and there is nothing bad about that.

- This here is a roach forum and in my opinion we should use scientific names especially for species which are traded under different confusing common names (like the 'hissers'). Everyone who feels fine only with common names I call "a common laymen" in that particular item (well, for me as a Swiss-german speeking person the translation is nothing adverse) -> correct me if I'm wrong (and give me the correct engl. word please)!!

 

[Zephyr]

I think the hissing that other species of roach make is produced when they produce their defence odors.